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Trump suggests DELAYING the 2020 election over claims of 'mail-in voting fraud' - minutes after devastating figures show economy has shrunk by a record-breaking THIRD

Trump suggests DELAYING election until votes are 'secure'

  • President Donald Trump on Thursday suggested delaying the November election until 'people can properly, securely and safely vote'
  • His pronouncement came after news U.S. economy had its worst quarter ever
  • U.S. economy shrank by 33% in April-June quarter
  •  '2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great embarrassment to the USA. Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???,' Trump tweeted 
  • Trump does not have power to delay election, that takes an act of Congress 

President Donald Trump on Thursday suggested delaying the November election until 'people can properly, securely and safely vote.'

But Trump does not have the power to delay the election. That would take an act of Congress, which is highly unlikely to happen.

Trump's pronouncement, however, came right after news the U.S. economy shrank by 33 per cent in the April-June quarter. 

That number marks the worst quarterly plunge ever and comes as the coronavirus pandemic has shut down businesses, thrown tens of millions out of work and sent unemployment to 14.7 per cent. Trump has banked his re-election chances on a strong U.S. economy. Voters give him high marks on his economic policy but have dinged him for his handling of the coronavirus and race relations.

Trump tied his suggested to delaying the election to his complaints about mail-in voting, which he has repeatedly complained will lead to vote fraud. Numerous studies have shown very little voter fraud in the United States via mail-in voting. 

'With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great embarrassment to the USA. Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???,' Trump tweeted.

New jobless claims ticked up again last week, following 15 straight weeks of declines from the peak in late March, when the coronavirus shutdowns initially hit

New jobless claims ticked up again last week, following 15 straight weeks of declines from the peak in late March, when the coronavirus shutdowns initially hit

President Donald Trump suggested delaying the November election until 'people can properly, securely and safely vote'

President Donald Trump suggested delaying the November election until 'people can properly, securely and safely vote'

Market reaction: How Dow went down over Trump tweet

Market reaction: How Dow went down over Trump tweet


The White House has little to no say in the timing of the election - it has already been set down by Congress . 

The Constitution sets a limit on the president's term of January 20 and puts the responsibility for choosing a new one on the Electoral College - made up of the states' electors. 

It then spells out that Congress has to pick the date for choosing the electors, which must be the same across the country.

Initially states did not all choose the electors by popular vote, but as they did, and with the advent of instant communication in the form of the telegraph, it became clear there had to be a national election date. 

In 1845, Congress set the date of the presidential election itself for the first time, as the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November. 

It has not been changed since, and would need an act of Congress to change it. Given the Democrats' hold on the House that seems impossible.

But there is some room for the White House to pressure states to put off elections for a few weeks.

The constitutional requirement that they choose their electors does not set a date - but in 1948 Congress did, as 'the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December.'

In theory, states could delay their elections to closer to that date - but that would take the country to the brink of a constitutional crisis and appears highly unlikely to happen.

Hogan Gidley, the spokesperson for President Trump's re-election campaign, said the president was merely questioning the legitimacy of mail-in voting.

'The President is just raising a question about the chaos Democrats have created with their insistence on all mail-in voting. 

'They are using coronavirus as their means to try to institute universal mail-in voting, which means sending every registered voter a ballot whether they asked for one or not. 

'Voter rolls are notoriously full of bad addresses for people who have moved, are non-citizens, or are even deceased. Universal mail-in voting invites chaos and severe delays in results, as proven by the New York Congressional primary where we still don’t know who won after more than a month,' Gidley said in a statement.

Trump's suggestion is unlikely to gain traction on Capitol Hill. 

Republican Senator John Barrasso of Wyoming immediately shot down Trump's idea of an election delay.

'No, we're not going to delay the election,' he said on Fox Business Thursday morning. 'We're going to have the election completed and voting completed by election day. It's going to take a while to get all the votes counted.'

Attorney General Bill Barr was asked at a Tuesday hearing on Capitol Hill if the president has the power to delay November's contest.

'Actually I haven't looked into that question under the Constitution. I've never been asked the question before, I've never looked into it,' he said. 

Barr also said he had 'no reason to think' that the upcoming election will be 'rigged.' 

The date of general election is statutorily set as 'the Tuesday next after the first Monday in the month of November' or 'the first Tuesday after November 1,' according to the 1845 law passed by Congress. Only new legislation could change that date. 

Additionally, Article II of the Constitution declares Congress - in effect - sets the election date: 'The Congress may determine the time of choosing the electors, and the day on which they shall give their votes; which day shall be the same throughout the United States.' 

But Trump's tweet could stoke fears already present among Democrats the president will use his executive powers - such as declaring martial law - to suppress voter turn out in Democratic areas such as big cities. 

Polls show presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden leading in national polls and in many of the battleground states that will decide the contest.

Biden has warned that Trump could seek to nullify and try to delegitimize November's contest should he lose. 

'Mark my words: I think he is gonna try to kick back the election somehow, come up with some rationale why it can't be held,' Biden said at a virtual fundraiser in April. 

And Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan called Trump's decision to send in federal forces to U.S. cities with demonstrations taking place in support of the Black Lives Matters movement is a 'dry run for martial law.'

Durkan said President Trump, 'clearly targeted cities run by Democratic mayors. He's said so himself.'

'He's using law enforcement as a political tool,' she told CNN earlier this week. 'I hate to say it, but I really believe that we are seeing the dry run for martial law. This is a president that is using law enforcement and federal forces for political purposes and that should be chilling to every American.' 

Trump also suggested Thursday that mail-in voting would allow foreign interference in the election. 

'Mail-In Voting is already proving to be a catastrophic disaster. Even testing areas are way off. The Dems talk of foreign influence in voting, but they know that Mail-In Voting is an easy way for foreign countries to enter the race. Even beyond that, there's no accurate count!,' he tweeted. 

Many states have opted to expand mail-in voting options for November's contest because of concerns about the coronavirus pandemic.

Trump has railed against these decisions and the Republican Party has created a $20 million legal fund to fight them.

The president, who is a resident of Florida, has voted absentee in several elections, including the state's presidential primary earlier this year. Vice President Mike Pence and several other members of his administration have also voted absentee.

But Trump argues voting absentee is different than wide-spread mail-in voting. 

He has attacked mail voting nearly 70 times since late March in interviews, remarks and tweets, including at least 17 times this month, according to a tally by The Washington Post

Attorney General Bill Barr said at a congressional hearing on Tuesday he had 'no reason to think' that the upcoming election will be 'rigged'
Presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden has warned President Trump could try to delay the November contest

Polls have shown most Americans - including Republicans - favor absentee voting as the coronavirus pandemic continues. 

In the event of extenuating circumstances, like traveling for work during the time of an election or being bed-ridden, voters in most states can apply for absentee ballots to cast their vote by mail ahead of the election date.

There are five states – Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Utah and Washington – that already hold their elections by mail-in voting.

Long lines have plagued several states during their primary elections the past few months. The number of polling places have been limited because of a shortage of workers due to the virus. Social distancing measures also mean the voting process takes longer.

In Georgia's June primary, voters waited in line for hours without being able to cast a ballot as a shortage of poll workers and social-distancing precautions caused by the coronavirus contributed to the problem. Some precincts were closed due to lack of election officials available to work and official limited the number of people allowed into the ones open to prevent the virus from spreading.

Voters took to Twitter to post photos of the long lines and point out the polling places that hadn't opened as scheduled at 7 a.m.  Technical issues with the new voting system - which combines touchscreens with scanned paper ballots in races for president, Senate and dozens of other contests - brought voting to a stand still.

Voters endure long lines to cast ballots in Georgia
Voters wait in line in Fulton County in Georgia's primary election on Tuesday

Voters wait in line in Fulton County in Georgia's primary election on Tuesday

Trump accuses Democrats of 'trying to steal another election'

In May President Trump threatened to hold federal funds from states like Michigan, which was mailing absentee ballots to all registered voters. 

Trump has also criticized California's mail-in balloting initiative, where registered voters have been sent ballots without having to formally request one. 

Republicans have filed a lawsuit against Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsome's move. 

Republicans long have been suspicious that making voting easier would elect more Democrats. Young people, for instance, tend to tilt more Democratic, but are also less likely to vote in-person. 

Additionally, Republicans have long complained about 'ballot harvesting' - their term for the process where someone (usually a party volunteer) collects absentee ballots from a group of people and mails them for them. Democrats call it ballot collecting.

In two-thirds of the states, any qualified voter may vote absentee without offering an excuse, and in one-third of the states, an excuse is required, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. But many states - including West Virginia and Virginia - are adding fear of the coronavirus as a valid excuse to request an absentee ballot. 

 America's economy shrank by a record-breaking 33% in last three months in biggest slump EVER as coronavirus takes unprecedented toll - and ANOTHER 1.4 million applied for unemployment in last week

The U.S. economy shrank at a dizzying 33% annual rate in the April-June quarter - by far the worst quarterly plunge ever - as coronavirus shut down businesses, throwing tens of millions out of work and sending unemployment surging to 14.7%, the government said Thursday.

The Commerce Department's estimate of the second-quarter decline in the gross domestic product, the total output of goods and services, marked the sharpest such drop on records dating to 1947. 

The previous worst quarterly contraction, a 10% drop, occurred in 1958 during the Eisenhower administration.

Last quarter's drop followed a 5% fall in the January-March quarter, during which the economy officially entered a recession triggered by the virus, ending an 11-year economic expansion, the longest on record in the United States.

The figures are potentially devastating to Donald Trump's re-election - and came from the three months which included his re-opening push and claiming the U.S. was entering a 'transition to greatness.'

But Trump did not react to the figures - instead 16 minutes after their release he suggested delaying the November election because of his claims that mail-in voting will make it 'inaccurate and fraudulent.' He has no legal power to do so; Congress sets the date of elections and if he does not win a second term, his departure from office on January 20 is legally mandated.

In a second blow, weekly jobless statistics shows showed 1.4 million new unemployment claims - the second week in a row they have gone up.

Stock markets opened down with the Dow Jones falling more than 300 points - although analysts said investors were more spooked by Trump's election delay proposal than by the economic growth figures, which were in line with expectations. By 10am it had lost 500 points. 

Markets have largely been bolstered by the Federal Reserve vowing to keep interest rates near zero and injecting huge amounts of cash to keep the biggest companies, especially banks, afloat. 

Before the coronavirus hit hard in March, the number of Americans seeking unemployment checks had never exceeded 700,000 in any one week, even during the Great Recession.

All told, 17 million people are collecting traditional jobless benefits, a sign that unemployment checks are keeping many American families afloat financially at a time of big job losses and agonizing economic uncertainty.

The pain could soon intensify: a supplemental $600 in weekly federal unemployment benefits is expiring, and Congress is squabbling about extending the aid, which would probably be done at a reduced level. 

The contraction last quarter was driven by a deep pullback in consumer spending, which accounts for about 70% of economic activity. 

Spending by consumers collapsed at a 34% annual rate as travel all but froze and shutdown orders forced many restaurants, bars, entertainment venues and other retail establishments to close. 

That followed a 6.9% pace of decline in the January-March period. Major retailers including JC Penney and Neiman Marcus have filed for bankruptcy. 

Business investment and residential housing also suffered sharp declines last quarter, with investment spending sinking 27% and residential housing plunging 38.7%.

State and local government spending, diminished by a loss of tax revenue that forced layoffs, also fell at an annual rate of 5.6%.

But overall government spending was up 2.7%, powered by a 17.4% surge in federal spending, reflecting the more than $2 trillion in relief packages that Congress enacted to provide $1,200 payments to individuals, aid to small businesses and supplemental unemployment benefits. 

The job market, the most important pillar of the economy, has been severely damaged. So far, about one-third of the lost jobs have been recovered, but the resurgent virus will likely slow further gains in the job market. 

Trump slump: Donald Trump's economy collapsed by 32.9% - a record figure - in April, May and June of this year as coronavirus chaos spread

Trump slump: Donald Trump's economy collapsed by 32.9% - a record figure - in April, May and June of this year as coronavirus chaos spread 

Jobless toll: Millions have been thrown out of work in the chaos caused by the virus - including these job seekers in Omaha, Nebraska

Jobless toll: Millions have been thrown out of work in the chaos caused by the virus - including these job seekers in Omaha, Nebraska

So dizzying was the contraction last quarter that most analysts expect the economy to manage a sharp bounce-back in the current July-September quarter, perhaps of as much as 17% or higher on an annual basis. 

Yet with the rate of confirmed coronavirus cases now rising in a majority of states, more businesses being forced to pull back on re-openings and the Republican Senate proposing to scale back the government's aid to the unemployed, the economy could worsen in the months ahead.

The Trump administration is betting against that outcome in asserting that the economy will undergo a V-shaped recovery in which last quarter's plunge would be followed by an impressive rebound in the current quarter — a hoped-for dose of good news that would be reported in late October, not long before Election Day.

Yet many economists are talking about a different letter of the alphabet. Noting that the economy can't fully recover until the pandemic is defeated or a vaccine is widely available, they envision a W-shaped scenario, in which a rebound in the current quarter would be followed by a sustained period of tepid growth or even outright recession.

'The markdowns are coming because of the clear economic damage the virus is doing,' said Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's Analytics, who said he believes the economy is losing jobs this month after two months of gains.

'We are going in reverse here,' Zandi said.

Analysts warn that the outlook could darken still further if Congress fails to enact enough financial aid to replace the expiring $600-a-week federal boost in unemployment benefits or provide sufficient help for businesses and state and local governments.

Senate Republicans released a $1 trillion proposal on Monday that falls far short of a $3 trillion measure the House has passed, leaving an enormous gap for Democrats and Republicans to bridge as some elements of Congress' earlier emergency relief programs run out.

Carnage: Consumer spending plunged - forcing businesses to close

Carnage: Consumer spending plunged - forcing businesses to close

Recent reports sketch a cautionary picture of the economy, with weekly applications for unemployment benefits still topping 1 million and consumer confidence falling sharply, with big declines in Michigan, Florida, Texas and California, all of which suffered a resurgence in confirmed virus cases.   

Yet in a more hopeful sign, sales of new and previously owned homes have been rising after sharp declines in the spring, thanks to ultra-low mortgage rates. 

And it was reported Wednesday that the number of Americans signing contracts to buy homes jumped 16.6% in June after a record 44% gain in May.

Economists regard increased government aid as essentially a stop-gap action to keep the recession from deepening further. 

The most critical need, they agree, is to control the virus, most likely through a vaccine that most likely won't be widely available until next year.

'If you tell me what will happen to the virus, I will tell you what will happen to the economy,' said Sung Won Sohn, a business and economics professor at Loyola Marymount University in Los Angeles.

'At the moment we are seeing rollbacks and a slowing in activity' because of the upsurge in virus cases.

Sohn noted that the economy needed 6½ years to regain the ground it had lost in the 2007-2009 Great Recession. This time, he said, the recovery will likely take even longer. 

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Comment by vaughn mitchell on July 30, 2020 at 4:46pm
He is gone, that stupid birdie does not know that he cannot postpone the election. Trying to force kids to go back to school so if their is breakout of the virus he can postpone the election. All those stupid people in red states that are not listening this is what he hope fort, he does not understand he will be gone next year, postpone or not, if he loses he is gone, if he try and postpone he is gone.
Comment by mr1stroke on July 30, 2020 at 2:28pm
Lol a state of confusion already, that election is going to turn so many idiots against each other, they have no idea what they are fighting for while powerful and the wealthy laugh, but than again that was written, since i will not cast a vote this year like 2016 ill sit back and watch the confuse minded, i like when you tell them you are not voting they are quick to tell you that our ancestors died for the rights to vote and that you are voting for the other side they repeat anything a white person tell them like Biden if you dont vote for him youre not black, lol he is so black he is letting you know he is for ever your master, next he will tell you thats what they Bible say

White people wrote a book how to condition negros with weak mind and they are still using it, they make sure they all use that same book, from justice system, politics and business, its working, they wrote that book from the Willie Lynch letter, the negros miss understood the concept they failed to understand vote without agendas and demands mean nothing, if you feel i am wrong explain how long have you been voting, why youre still complaining about the same issues, why do you still rely on the same party for equality, if they are so concern, how they cant pass a law to change your condition like the they do for DaCa or the gays? Wait let me guess the republicans have been stopping them from the 60s to 2020, in that case if i were you i would just vote republican, this is crazy lets wait until this November

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