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Plainclothes officers in trouble did not recognize off duty Black Police chief

At least one cop has been disciplined for ordering the NYPD's highest-ranking uniformed black officer out of his auto while the three-star chief was off-duty and parked in Queens, the Daily News has learned.

"How you can not know or recognize a chief in a department SUV with ID around his neck, I don't know," a police source said.

Chief Douglas Zeigler, 60, head of the Community Affairs Bureau, was in his NYPD-issued vehicle near a fire hydrant when two plainclothes cops approached on May 2, sources said.

One officer walked up on each side of the SUV at 57th Ave. and Xenia St. in Corona about 7 p.m. and told the driver to roll down the heavily tinted windows, sources said.

What happened next is in dispute.

In his briefing to Police Commissioner Raymond KellyZeigler said the two cops, who are white, had no legitimate reason to approach his SUV, ranking sources said.

After they ordered him to get out, one officer did not believe the NYPD identification Zeigler gave him.

The cops gave a different account:

When one officer spotted Zeigler's service weapon through the rolled-down window, he yelled "Gun!" according to sources who have spoken with the officers.

Both cops raised their weapons and ordered the driver out of the car, sources said.

Instead of saying he was an armed member of the NYPD, Zeigler shouted, "Don't you know who I am?" the sources said.

When one cop reached over to check the identification badge around Zeigler's neck, the chief pushed him away, sources said.

Only then did Zeigler tell the two officers his name and rank, those sources said.

Zeigler, in his discussions with Kelly, said the officers never yelled "Gun!" sources said.

One cop got into a heated argument with the chief even after seeing the ID, sources said.

That cop was stripped of his gun and badge and placed on modified duty last night, sources said. The status of the second officer was unclear.

The incident occurred as the NYPD is under fire for record numbers of pedestrians being stopped and frisked, the majority of them black or Hispanic. Some 145,098 people were stopped by the NYPD in the first quarter of this year.

Zeigler has headed the Community Affairs Bureau since January 2006. His wife, Neldra Zeigler, is NYPD deputy commissioner for equal employment opportunity.



Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/plainclothes-officers-tr...


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Comment by rashid rourk on August 7, 2013 at 12:09am

He didn't have the complexion for the protection.

Comment by Clayon Buzz on August 5, 2013 at 12:13pm

http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Barack_Obama_Civil_Rights.htm

look for your self if you want hope and change brothers and sisters kings and queens 

Comment by Anthony on August 5, 2013 at 2:08am
At the end of the day Chief, you are still a Black Man. As Paul Mooney would say: He got his Nigg@ wake up call! He should have spent some time with Obama, he would reminded him about high positions and disrespect.
Comment by Clayon Buzz on August 4, 2013 at 11:58am

@Malcolm  bless up king i show it to my brothers and sisters that want to see it first hand and know family if we in a house and its on fire and you wake me up thank you for that you could of ran out brother some of these toms and tammy will be in the masters house or back on the field so they could care less about us Black is Beautiful and Power 

Comment by Malcolm X on August 3, 2013 at 7:20pm

@ Clayon Buzz THANK YOU for that video. It Is Truth. Most aint going to watch it because most would rather live in a fantasy world. We have been trained to ignore this type of reality. Even if we never do anything, at the very least we should know and accept the truth.

Comment by Clayon Buzz on August 3, 2013 at 1:25am
Comment by Alicia Johnson on August 3, 2013 at 12:35am

See what I mean??? Why, after briefing the Police Commissioner about the incident, is this officer (the one that argued with him even after he showed ID) still on the force? Explanation: because he is white, and God forbid they take the word of a black man, career officer or not, over a white man's.

Comment by Dexter on August 3, 2013 at 12:17am

Ruff, that line "yeah you stupid ass u an older trayvon" had me rolling

People need to check out what Bill Deblasio talking about as far as ending that stop & frisk if he becomes mayor. Them other candidates plan to continue the policy if there isnt a court ruling saying that its unconstitutional. As big an issue that stop & frisk is why is this story just now coming out & the incident occured in May? Ya think bloomberg may have tried to keep this from coming out?

Since bloombergs been in office, stop & frisk went from 90k/yr to where its at now, 700k stop & frisks. This s*** is f*cking demoralizing to black people. With such a high volume of stops, some have been stopped numerous times.

Even with the higher volume of stops, nypd's own stats show that blacks & hispanics are stopped 90% of the time but more weapons have been confiscated from the other 10% of the community which are whites & asians. Also, the level of gun has remained @ around 1800/yr where it was when bloomberg 1st took office as with the amount of guns taken off the streets. If these stats are from nypd, its basically saying that Ray Kelly is full of s*** & the darkies aint walking around with all these guns that you need to harrass every black man you see including 60yr black police chiefs.

This stop & frisk policy is said to disenfranchise many young blacks that end up getting caught up in the system. Often theyre arrested for merely asking the police officer why theyre being stopped. It may be a minor offense but try explaining that sh*t when you go try to get a job. Then there are those that get caught with small amounts of weed. In ny its a misdemeanor to possess small amounts. Where it becomes a felony, is if its out in the open. When the cop tells you to empty your pockets & you pull the weed out where its on full display, they bump up the charge. Now with this bs on you, you might end up losing your job or not being able to find work or you can find yourself at an immigration detention center hemmed up waiting to get shipped home.

I personally have mixed feelings about stop & frisk. On the one hand i feel that it would deter some guns from being on the streets & keep crime down but if these nypd stats are correct, it seems like all the policy is doing is harassing blacks, some who are ordinary hard working tax payers that pay the salaries of these cops to slam them up against a car or to the ground just for being black. Two constitutional rights being broken in one stop. You're targeted for being black & you have a constitutional right against illegal search & seizure.

Its becoming clearer what this is really about. Bloomberg wants yous people out of ny so him & his other millionaire buddies can scoop up the property cheap.

Comment by Ebony Hazell on August 2, 2013 at 12:45pm
http://youtu.be/KkpdoSMV8IY. If you are tried of all the ish.
Comment by Clayon Buzz on August 2, 2013 at 12:39pm

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