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Chic’s ‘Good Times’ Wouldn’t Exist If THIS Song Five Years Earlier Had Never Been Recorded [Video Throwback]

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Chic perform on stage in London, October 1979. Left to right: Luci Martin, Nile Rodgers, Bernard Edwards and Alfa Anderson. (Photo by Gus Stewart/Redferns/Getty Images)

Chic’s 1979 hit “Good Times” has inspired or been sampled in so many songs, but the group’s co-founder Nile Rodgers says the track got its inspiration from another iconic R&B band popular in the 70s and 80s.

Billboard magazine named “Good Times” the year’s No. 1 soul single, not knowing its bass line would go on to lay the groundwork for a whole new genre of music birthed in the Bronx. The song reached No 3 on the disco charts, as the genre was slowly giving way to more funk-driven R&B. But on August 18, 1979, for one week, “Good Times” and its infectious groove sat above all others at the top of Billboard’s pop chart.

Rodgers, who wrote and produced the track with the group’s late drummer Bernard Edwards, said the song’s bass line was inspired by the progression done five years earlier by Kool & the Gang in “Hollywood Swinging.”

“Hollywood Swinging” – Kool & the Gang

In a 2015 interview with Sway of SiriusXM, Rodgers explained that his cousin was a member of Kool & the Gang, and his biggest aspiration at the time was to “be like my cousin and be in Kool & the Gang.”

Below, Rodgers talks about his reaction upon hearing “Hollywood Swinging” for the first time in ’74, its influence on “Good Times” and how “Good Times” has gone on to influence The Sugarhill Gang and other important moments in music, including Queen’s “Another One Bites the Dust” and Blondie’s“Rapture.”

Nile Rodgers Discusses Legendary Bass Line of “Good Times,” Sampling & FOLD! Festival

As Rodgers said in the video above, “Good Times” would influence two records that were debatable “firsts” in hip hop. In addition to its bass line driving The Sugarhill Gang’s “Rapper’s Delight” in 1979, it influenced Blondie’s 1981 hit “Rapture,” featuring his friend Debbie Harry as lead singer, and became the first number one hit in the U.S. to be credited as featuring a rap. Hip Hop historians say that neither “Rapper’s Delight’ nor “Rapture” should be considered rap “firsts.” That distinction belonged to “Kim Tim III (Personality Jock)” by The Fatback Band, released mere months before “Rapper’s Delight” in 1979.

“Kim Tim III (Personality Jock)”  – The Fatback Band

In Rodgers’ interview with Sway above, he talks about hearing the bass line of “Good Times” in “Rapper’s Delight” for the first time. Several weeks earlier, Blondie and Chic were playing concerts with The Clash at New York club The Palladium. When Chic started playing “Good Times,” rapper Fab Five Freddy and members of the Sugarhill Gang (“Big Bank Hank” Jackson, “Wonder Mike” Wright, and “Master Gee” O’Brien), jumped up on stage and started freestyling with the band.

A few weeks later, Rodgers was at New York club Leviticus and heard the DJ play a song that opened with Edwards’ bass line from “Good Times.” Rodgers angrily approached the DJ and found out that he purchased the song in a record store, and it was titled “Rapper’s Delight.” Rodgers and Edwards promptly threatened the Sugarhill Gang with a copyright infringement lawsuit, but all parties reached a settlement in the end that resulted in Rodgers and Edwards being credited as co-writers on “Rapper’s Delight.”

“Rapper’s Delight” – The Sugarhill Gang

Meanwhile, “Rapture” as a whole is considered new wave, not hip hop. But the extended rap by Harry near the end put it in the category as far as Billboard was concerned. Also, hip hop purists argue that Debbie Harry isn’t really rapping, but “speaking” her rhymes.

“Rapture” – Blondie

In an interview with NME, Bernard Edwards said of Queen bass player John Deacon and their 1980 track “Another One Bites the Dust”: “That Queen record came about because that Queen bass player … spent some time hanging out with us at our studio.”

“Another One Bites the Dust” – Queen

Following its week at No. 1, beginning 41 years ago today, “Good Times” was dethroned by another song with an identifiable bass line…

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Comment by Lu on December 2, 2020 at 4:30pm

This is just some of the songs on my weekly playlists, blasting it specifically on the weekends...REAL MUSIC

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Comment by stephen myers on August 19, 2020 at 11:36pm

Good times when music was music, times when you had to have talent, an era of positive uplifting music, all I listen to is my era of the music from the 70's, today they all sound like robots, chipmunks, whining girlie men, females sound like cats on a roof, the females are all plastic with slut behavior moaning on how hurt they are along with the girlie males, reggae is garbage compared to the past, now a subculture of savages have taken over the industry and some even brag about serving Satan, sad times to be around zombies.

Comment by mr1stroke on August 19, 2020 at 7:14pm
Oh yes thats that good s***, everything kool and the gang made was a hit, not one song they made was wack, one of the best hit is lets go dancing

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