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Building a mosque at Ground Zero, is it distasteful? (Watch Videos)

In this country, we don’t make urban-planning decisions strictly on the basis of religion. For that reason, the so-called ground-zero mosque had to move forward.

As New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg asked: “Should government attempt to deny private citizens the right to build a house of worship on private property based on their particular religion? That may happen in other countries, but we should never allow it to happen here.”

Thousands flood Park Place to protest against plans to build an Islamic cultural center and mosque near Ground Zero.

Thousands flood Park Place to protest against plans to build an Islamic cultural center and mosque near Ground Zero.

Bloomberg may have been right on the basic point, but like so many on the left, he ended up putting the emphasis in the wrong place.

He didn’t say it was a tough call for local officials. Rather, like someone trying to cover a mysterious odor with perfume, he portrayed the outcome — permission to build a $100 million Islamic center two blocks from ground zero — as a wondrous affirmation of all that is good and true.

A few days later, he let the mask fall completely and said mosque opponents “should be ashamed of themselves.”

Really? We’re told this controversy is mainly about religious tolerance, but too many questions remain unanswered to take such bromides at face value.

Consider Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, who’s heading up the project. He’s described as a moderate Muslim who wants to build interfaith understanding. If so, why insist on a multi-story complex so close to where 3,000 Americans were incinerated by Islamic jihadists?

If this is about tolerance and sensitivity, shouldn’t mosque organizers grant the sensitivity they demand of others and accept an alternate location?

Nor is it clear that Rauf is the moderate his supporters claim.

In a “60 Minutes” interview 19 days after Sept. 11, he was asked whether the United States deserved the attack.

His muddled answer: “I wouldn’t say that the United States deserved what happened. But the United States’ policies were an accessory to the crime that happened.”

An accessory? How? “Because we have been accessory to a lot of innocent lives dying in the world. In fact, in the most direct sense, Osama bin Laden is made in the USA.”

One of the mosque project’s most obvious red flags is the lack of information about funding. Where’s the money coming from?

Rauf and other organizers won’t say. Why not?

To many on the left, the motives of Rauf and the other mosque organizers is not a significant issue.

But to two members of the Muslim Canadian Congress, Raheel Raza and Tarek Fatah, what Rauf is doing is perfectly clear, and it has nothing to do with tolerance.

“[W]e Muslims know the idea behind the Ground Zero mosque is meant to be a deliberate provocation to thumb our noses at the infidel,” Raza and Fatah wrote recently in the Ottawa Citizen.

“The proposal has been made in bad faith,” they continued. “Do [organizers] not understand that building a mosque at Ground Zero is equivalent to permitting a Serbian Orthodox church near the killing fields of Srebrenica where 8,000 Muslim men and boys were slaughtered?”

A Muslim group truly interested in fostering goodwill would be willing to accept an alternative site. That Rauf and his backers have refused sends a clear message that undermines their professed commitment to religious understanding.

Rauf, however, could help change that impression. Last week, it was revealed that he would participate in a tour of the Middle East, as part of a State Department program aimed at helping people in other countries “understand our society and the role of religion within our society,” as a spokesman put it.

The imam should take a cue from The Wall Street Journal’s Dan Henninger, and see this as an opportunity to voice public support for religious freedom in Islamic countries, where Christians, Jews and other religious minorities are often persecuted. That would do a great deal to answer some of the questions surrounding the ground-zero mosque.

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Comment by Malcolm X on August 28, 2010 at 9:20pm
Yeah muslims fight each other just like all other people. The British and the Irish have been going at it over religious differences in Norther Ireland for over a hundred years. Bosnians and serbs. Even in the U.S. the north and south fought each other and it wasn't about freeing the slaves that only came after the fact.

If the problem is with the Imam, then that should be what's stated. But what everyone keeps saying is, "This will be some type of victory for the terrorist." This is why I'm bothered. Once in a while people talk about the Imam.

But remember what Obama's pastor said. The problem is a lot of people are angry with america. The CIA has killed African leaders example Patrice Lumumba in the Congo.

On a personal note I remember calling about a job. On the phone some say I sound white.I was told I had the job but when I get there and they saw me (I'm as dark as biggie smalls) it was a different story. I was born in the suburbs in the 60's so I got a million stories of racism on a personal note

But I digress. This country was built up on slavery and the stealing of the native americans land. This country is rich not because of some smartness but because of trickery and fraud.

As other nations are fighting back and coming up the american economy is going down. Without someone to steal and rob they can't seem to prosper. Why do you think the Arabs only hate america and Europeans. Unlike black people they haven't let their grudge go. They feel they are still poor because of white domination.

Oh yeah Bin Ladin had demands before 911. He wanted all U.S. troops out of saudi arabia. Six months after 911 GW Bush gave into those demands and took OUR boys out of that country and invaded Afghanistan. Since we been there the price of Afgan heroin has dropped. They damn near giving away dope on the streets of NYC and for some reason New Orleans. Sort of like when the CIA GAVE crack to the real Rick Ross.

The Arabs got oil and america don't want to play fair. Think for a second. If someone is willing to die to kill someone they must be mad about something. And remember alqeaida was making demands before 911 but now they seem to be killing just to be killing.

I think if we read history books instead of newspapers we'd have a betterment understanding of what's going on. Because like it says in the bible, "There's nothing new under the sun."
Comment by DJ Simmy Reggae Vybz Radio Mgmt on August 28, 2010 at 6:28pm
@ big shot nice avatar by the way
Comment by Tylah Cenci on August 28, 2010 at 12:29pm
Bloomberg is looking at the dollar bills. He's greedy like the majority of rich ppl in the world. He has 16billion dollars and couldn't put $500 million into the suffering school system
I wouldn't even look at bloomberg, mayor or not
Comment by Tylah Cenci on August 28, 2010 at 12:23pm
Big Shot, yuh not easy. Luv to you too. And to be completely honest, I stand in the middle of the argument. Im suspicious about that man building the mosque, and im also aware that services were going on there before they wanted to build an official mosque, knowing politicians are using this for political points for november elections like Dj simmy implied. At the end of the day they have approval to build. But knowing the history of islam, radical extremists, and the role of imams and the mosque...all of this action near Ground Zero, I dont think any question should go unanswered
Comment by Big Shot... on August 28, 2010 at 6:08am
@Mikaeel Abdul-Malik
"as far as Muslims acting like true muslims, the last I heard, all the muslims were human. And no human except you of course is perfect. Only you are without fault. In fact you are so sin free it is only fitting that you cast the first stone."
I respect your whole statement that came with this one here. You are right in many ways. But this part in particular is real cute brother. (I know, no ones perfect, and I'm aware that I'm not either, never said I was.) But, I must say. If Muslims or any other person that is gonna big up themselves as if they are on a higher level because of their way of life, fellowship and alliance to a group, don't you agree that they have to maintain their standards in order to be viewed in the light of what they proclaim? It's like as a roman catholic priest, you can't say your holy-er then thou today and tomorrow do whatever you want (violating standards) and expect the same respect from people when you return to your position. This is not a job, it's a way of life is it not?
Comment by Big Shot... on August 28, 2010 at 5:44am
@Tylah Cenci
Great comments all thus far sugar.
1st with this "saying they were out of order, but instead pointed his finger to America and threw the blame while terrorists been killing fellow Muslims in their own countries for centuries."
I have to agree with this totally. The world knows of these loooooooog wars between them. But they follow the same religion. HUUUM... (Peaceful, at times maybe.)

"I wonder ti myself how sensitive would muslims be if fellow muslims died in the twin towers if muslim on muslim terrorism has been going in the Middle East for centuries?"

I've been saying this, you know they would "NOT" have that. Not to mention Blumberg is for this also, pushing hard even, him being involved alone, spell trouble! I don't trust this thing ONE BIT! Something under handed is going on. All the signs are there..

"The building of this mosque is for provocation's sake, maybe even more sinister...not just an ordinary "
This really seems to be the case I must say. They are to adamant in their thinking on this particular location. Way too strange. History shows that many nations mark their conquered spots also.

Loved your rebuttals... Mad love to ya..
Comment by DJ Simmy Reggae Vybz Radio Mgmt on August 27, 2010 at 11:28pm
Ok tylah I understand I come on here with my iPhone so I know bout the auto correct cause it's annoying when I type my name and it changes it.

Amy I truly understand luv. And yes I'm a peaceful person and would love to call u friend.
Comment by Tylah Cenci on August 27, 2010 at 10:04pm
Peace in the party, nice man. We need a cyber group hug now *smile*. And for real simmy, I meant simmy not dummy
Comment by Tylah Cenci on August 27, 2010 at 9:46pm
I meant simmy, that was a typo from my motoblur auto dictionary. I like you too much to call u dummy *smile*
Comment by Malcolm X on August 27, 2010 at 9:37pm
One of the problems with the perception of Islam is people confuse Arabs, Saudi Arabia and Muslims. The majority of the worlds Muslims are not Arabs. Also Mecca is the most holy city in Islam. There are no mosque in Vatican City either. And last I heard no Muslims (Arab or otherwise) have been trying to build one there.

I went to the mosque in Brooklyn today. It was so crowded I had to pray in the basement. Go to any mosque in NYC next friday. They are packed. In the Bronx one mosque's congregation spills over into the street for Friday worship. That could be the reason why they want to build another mosque.

And back to the they. The Imam and many of the people associated with this mosque are U.S. citizens. The republicans keep people thinking that muslims means foreign Arab not from america.

The biggest muslim countries are 1. Indonesia, 2. Pakistan, 3. Bangladesh, 4. Nigeria. In fact there are more Black muslims in Africa than Arabs in the whole world. This includes Christian and Druze arabs. Because they're not all muslims.

I work in the WTC area and will probably pray at that mosque when it is finished. I'm american descendant of slaves. My family has been here since the 1860's. So when you talk about muslims, remember some of them have been in this country for generations. I find it funny and offensive that some people keep making it sound like we're all Arab and terrorist.

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